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Oct. 27, 2026

Want to be rich or king? The answer is more important than you realize

Want to be rich or king? The answer is more important than you realize
Want to be rich or king? The answer is more important than you realize
The New Talent Playbook
Want to be rich or king? The answer is more important than you realize

Rob Levin argues that growth requires choosing to be "rich," not "king": a founder has to give up control, build a strong hiring process, invest in culture, and stop being the bottleneck. He frames this as a leadership decision with real tradeoffs: more growth and leverage, or more control and a natural cap on scale.

Key Takeaways

  • "Rich" means growth, shared decision-making, and a business that doesn't revolve around the founder.
  • "King" means control and comfort, but it limits growth.
  • To scale, leaders need strong hiring, a healthy culture, and the right people in the right roles.
  • If someone is hurting the culture, they need to be addressed quickly.

Timestamps

(02:04) Rob says being rich requires good hiring, a strong culture, and the ability to remove people who bring others down.

(03:02) He explains the trade-offs: king caps growth; rich costs control and requires time, energy, and some money.

(04:05) He adds that the business cannot revolve around the founder and that leaders must accept decisions made by others.

(06:00) He says he was a bottleneck and then explains how Work Better Now was built with Andrew Cohen, with him focused on strategy and Andrew on operations.

(06:39) He describes building a leadership team, staying off the bottleneck path, and growing rapidly while maintaining culture and outcomes.

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